Dad's teenage years
So we go into the 1930’s and things were much better, for us anyway. The Carriage Works had opened up and were busy, Father , Arthur and Alf went back , Fred went to K&J’s the printers and as said earlier I was at the Cronehills Central school, and it was my intension not to work at the Carriage Works I took the Commercial course ,and when I left school I got a job as office boy at Chance Bros. The glass works down Spon Lane, the first rung of the ladder for my ultimate success. But alas it was not to be. After about six months Father said the job was not suitable for me, and I was to go to the Carriage Works with the others. I think he had the best motives, and to be fair to him I started he the best department which did the fitting out of the interiors of the coaches, a clean job, we wore a white apron and a collar and tie. And when we were lads you were expected to have a clean apron on a Monday morning, sometimes sent home to get one if you lived near enough which most did in those days, but I soon settled in and was reasonably content, with my pocket money and my golf money my teenage were pretty good. Except for one thing, The political and the diplomatic scene was pretty dire and everyone expected that there would be a war, which there was in September 1939. Fred was called up very early in the war, Arthur and Alf were in reserved occupations, and I not quite old enough. I was not very happy with my job in the early part of the war, So I left the Carriage Works an got a job at Harris and Sheldons a firm of shop fitters in Birmingham, nobody would believe that a Hamilton was leaving. The word went round, ’young Hamilton is leaving, and when Father knew when I got home with my tool-box, the heavens opened up, I had committed the gravest sin. But time is a great healer, and I settled in to my new job very well making parts for aircraft, which was a reserved occupation, for now I was military age.
About this time A young lady from Stourbridge named Betty Billingham, did the same as me, left her job against her parents wishes, went to the Ministry of Labour in Birmingham and they sent her to Harris and Sheldons and that is where we met. Although quite young twenty two, I was put in charge of a section making disposable petrol tanks for spitfires fighter planes, really content. That was until I got home from work one teatime and Mother handed me a buff envelope with my calling up papers inside. Ha well I had had a good run, it did not bother me greatly everyone else of my age had gone, so be it. Next morning I had a lie in and got to work late, when I arrived the foreman came over pointing to his watch where have you been etc, and I handed him my calling up papers. He was not pleased saying I was not going in the xxxxxx army, and rushed of to the office to get someone to clear it with At the Labour exchange to cancel it. But it was not to be. I reported to Norton Barracks Worcester for training, and irrespective of my experience in industry, I was assessed to be a wireless operator driver in the Royal Artillery and I was posted to Whitby in Yorkshire for training
This blog is designed to record the findings of our family history, mainly for the benefit of the family, and to document the dead ends, the breakthroughs and the journey.
I’ll post the family stories as I’ve written them to now, and I’ll be grateful to anyone who can add further information or pictures, or point out errors.
Particular thanks to my sister Julia and my cousin Mandy who between them have done much more of the work than I have.
I’ll post the family stories as I’ve written them to now, and I’ll be grateful to anyone who can add further information or pictures, or point out errors.
Particular thanks to my sister Julia and my cousin Mandy who between them have done much more of the work than I have.
Friday, 29 March 2013
A brush with Royalty
More from my father Joseph Sydney Hamilton
When we were young we were quite hard up as most people were who lived in the street, in spite of living in a very affluent middle class area, Birmingham Rd. and Beeches Rd., but we never went short thanks to our mother’s house keeping management, but we had to try and earn money even when we were quite young. One was taking dinners to the carriage works, our father always had his dinner took to the factory every day, and we had to take Uncle Joe’s and Uncle Ernie’s, in a basin ina wicker basket. Three baskets that meant two of us. I started when I was ten helped by Stan who was three years younger Uncle Joe lived down Trinity Rd. and I left school early Beeches Rd. and then Cronehills, run all the way to Uncle Joe’s run through Kenricks Park pick up Uncle Ernie’s Dinner down Roebuck St, then to our house pick up Father’s and we half run half walked to the works. If we were late or spilled the gravy, we were in trouble. To-day this would be considered child cruelty. One day taking the dinners I had my brush with Royalty. We had to pass the Albion ground to get to the works. And that year the Albion had won the cup, an when we approached the main entrance, men in bowler hats and police inspectors lined the pavement, and we barged through only to be pushed back has the Prince of Wales who later became the Duke of Windsor, came out and the men raised their bowler hats and cheered, and very nearly walked in to him. From there they went on to the Carriage Works for a conducted tour and father and uncles did not get their dinner till past two, their dinners were cold but could not blame us. We used to get a shilling a week for taking the dinners which mother had. One other thing we had to do was to fetch coal from the pit a Saturday morning, we had this big wooden trolley , home made which held as cwt of coal. it was quite awkward to cope with as well as the fact we had to pull it over the railway bridge. There were other lads fetching coal we left the trolleys at the bottom and we all helped to pull the trolleys over the bridge one at a time. When we unloaded we went back, to get coal for neighbours for money of course. And then when we were twelve we went golf caddying at Sandwell Park Golf Club
The rules were you had to be twelve before you could be a caddy till you were sixteen. The fee was one and sixpence a round (seven and a half pence in to-days money, sometimes you got a bit extra, mother had that and you got a penny back. We went Saturday and Sunday and evenings in the summer, that is after the dinner and coal run. When we started work we still went caddying but had sixpence back. As time went on into the thirty’s and more of us were working we came reasonably better off, than quite a lot, we were the first to have a car. Arthur bought a Austin Seven for twenty pounds in 1934,He got married about that time, and we had better cars which brother Alf used to drive and look after, A natural mechanic was Alfred. Mother had certain rules. When you started work at fourteen mother had your wages and gave you a shilling (5p). When you got to sixteen you kept your wages and paid board an looked after yourself, bought your own clothes etc. So life was not so bad compared with others
When we were young we were quite hard up as most people were who lived in the street, in spite of living in a very affluent middle class area, Birmingham Rd. and Beeches Rd., but we never went short thanks to our mother’s house keeping management, but we had to try and earn money even when we were quite young. One was taking dinners to the carriage works, our father always had his dinner took to the factory every day, and we had to take Uncle Joe’s and Uncle Ernie’s, in a basin ina wicker basket. Three baskets that meant two of us. I started when I was ten helped by Stan who was three years younger Uncle Joe lived down Trinity Rd. and I left school early Beeches Rd. and then Cronehills, run all the way to Uncle Joe’s run through Kenricks Park pick up Uncle Ernie’s Dinner down Roebuck St, then to our house pick up Father’s and we half run half walked to the works. If we were late or spilled the gravy, we were in trouble. To-day this would be considered child cruelty. One day taking the dinners I had my brush with Royalty. We had to pass the Albion ground to get to the works. And that year the Albion had won the cup, an when we approached the main entrance, men in bowler hats and police inspectors lined the pavement, and we barged through only to be pushed back has the Prince of Wales who later became the Duke of Windsor, came out and the men raised their bowler hats and cheered, and very nearly walked in to him. From there they went on to the Carriage Works for a conducted tour and father and uncles did not get their dinner till past two, their dinners were cold but could not blame us. We used to get a shilling a week for taking the dinners which mother had. One other thing we had to do was to fetch coal from the pit a Saturday morning, we had this big wooden trolley , home made which held as cwt of coal. it was quite awkward to cope with as well as the fact we had to pull it over the railway bridge. There were other lads fetching coal we left the trolleys at the bottom and we all helped to pull the trolleys over the bridge one at a time. When we unloaded we went back, to get coal for neighbours for money of course. And then when we were twelve we went golf caddying at Sandwell Park Golf Club
The rules were you had to be twelve before you could be a caddy till you were sixteen. The fee was one and sixpence a round (seven and a half pence in to-days money, sometimes you got a bit extra, mother had that and you got a penny back. We went Saturday and Sunday and evenings in the summer, that is after the dinner and coal run. When we started work we still went caddying but had sixpence back. As time went on into the thirty’s and more of us were working we came reasonably better off, than quite a lot, we were the first to have a car. Arthur bought a Austin Seven for twenty pounds in 1934,He got married about that time, and we had better cars which brother Alf used to drive and look after, A natural mechanic was Alfred. Mother had certain rules. When you started work at fourteen mother had your wages and gave you a shilling (5p). When you got to sixteen you kept your wages and paid board an looked after yourself, bought your own clothes etc. So life was not so bad compared with others
Dad's childhood story
My father wrote down his early memories when Mandy first strated the family history. In memory of him here they are
Joseph Sydney Hamilton.
Some notes on my childhood and life!
There were nine of us in the family plus Mother and Father.
This was my family in chronological order.
Father :-Walter Hamilton
Mother :-Lily Gertrude
Arthur married Minnie Bates,Children Brian and Alan
Dorrie (Dorothy) married Arthur Hawthorn one child Ann
Alfred, married Cathy Shelton one child Graham
Fredrick married Molly,no children
Syd (Joseph Sydney) married Betty Billingham, children Diana and Julia
Stanley married Irene White,children Nigel and Kerry
Norman married Olive, children Paul and Geoffrey.
Betty married Don Walklem.children Deborah Beverley and Donna
Donald married Beryl,one child Lynne.
We all attended Beeches Road Junior School, l was the first to pass for Cronhills senior school, l think some of the others went later.
We were all born and were brought up at 17 Roebuck St , number 17 was a two up and two down end of terrace house, it had an outside washouse (the brewus) the brewhouse as it was called, there was also the coal place (the coal hole) the outside toilet and a very long narrow garden.
We had a cellar which was sometimes used for coal but this always had a couple of feet of water,the top of the cellar steps was the pantry, there was no light so you had to take a candle and when you lent in to get something off the shelf there was always a danger of falling down the cellar steps.
There house had two gas lights downstairs but everywhere else you used a candle. Of course we had a coal-fire, Mother did all her cooking on the fire or in the oven that the fire heated.
Many years later we had a gas stove put in the brewus, which meant that the food had to be carried from the brewus across the yard in all weather into the house, later when we were older we did build a veranda for cover and to link the two buildings.
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We were told that when our parents moved into number 17 the row of five houses were empty and they had their pick. Father picked the end one ,a prime site for his pigeon pen, the pigeons were his main interest in life that and the pub on the corner”Three Mile Oak” The upside of keeping the pigeons were the eggs which we sometimes had for breakfast, Father would kill the pigeon that were no longer useful and we would have pigeon pie. The pigeon manure which was a good fertilizer father had a very productive garden.
When we were young we were quite hard up as most people were who lived in the street in spite of living in the very affluent middle class area of Birmingham Rd and Beeches Rd in West Bromwich.
We never went short of anything thanks to our mother’s good
housekeeping management. We were expected to try and earn money even when we were quite young. Our lunch time job was taking dinners to the carriage works, our father always had his dinner delivered to the factory every day, and we also had to take Uncle Joe’s and Uncle Ernie’s in a basin inside a wicker basket. Three baskets meant two of us needed to go. I started the lunch run when I was ten helped by my brother Stan who was three years younger.
Uncle Joe lived along Trinity Rd. and I needed to leave my junior school at lunch time early (Beeches Road School.) and then later the secondary school (Cronehills) and run all the way to Uncle Joe’s, running through Kendricks Park to pick up Uncle Ernie’s dinner then down Roebuck St to our house to pick up Father’s dinner, we really had to half run half walked to get to dinners the works on time.
If we were late or spilled the gravy, we were in big trouble. Today l think this would be considered child cruelty.
Dad's letter from Burma
My cousin Ann recently showed me a letter that my father wrote to her parents from Burma when she was born. It's language and tone show that these soldiers were really just boys.
This is actual size
This is actual size
To Mr & Mrs A Hawthorne
19 Poplar Grove
Burlington Road
West Bromwich
Staffs
England 26-6-44
19 Poplar Grove
Burlington Road
West Bromwich
Staffs
England 26-6-44
5523158 Gnr Hamilton J 7/4th Field Rgt RA
c/o SEAC
c/o SEAC
Dear Arthur and Dorrie
CONGRATULATIONS. Although my regards have to travel from a remote spot of our great(?) empire, nevertheless they mean just the same. I hope the event was celebrated in the traditional manner, you know “Gulp!, guzzle! Fill ‘em up again” it really was a surprise to me, nobody tells me these things. Am I really too young? I hope the baby isn’t too old before I can see it ---she of course. If it is not too old I shall be out of this place “pretty quickly”. And if you don’t give your first daughter a name I don’t approve of, expect a nasty letter. (Don’t get me wrong, I never mentioned Betty). Speaking of Betty she tells me she is going to your place to take the baby out. I hope she hasn’t got any ideas. How do you like my future mother-in-law. Alright isn’t she. Wait till you meet the old man> he is a good old stick too, but for God’s sake don’t come in contact with the other prospective son-in-law of the Billingham family. He stinks. Set my two mad young brothers on him for me.
Wednesday, 14 November 2012
Elizabeth Webb 1814-1899
I have already written about the mysterious Mills family after
1851, but what of Elizabeth Webb, great great grandmother no 2, who married
William Mills in 1832 in Wolverhampton, according to IGI.
Details are of course sketchy at this stage, but the 1851
and 1861 censuses give Elizabeth’s birth year as 1814 and her place of birth as
Sedgley. According to IGI she was christened on 6th November 1814,
and her parents were John Webb and Hannah Unitt who were married on 15th
September 1811 at St Peter Or, Wolverhampton. IGI does not mention the church
in which Elizabeth was christened but the parish church of Sedgley was All
Saints.
We do not know what Elizabeth did, if anything for a living,
as she did not work after her marriage to
William Mills who was a master whitesmith, as so many of our ancestors
on this side are.
In 1841 this family is living at Sheepcot Wall Sedgley .
The couple were in Sedgley in 1851, at Dudley Road Sedgley
with 6 children
William Mills
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1811
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Fire Iron Maker
employing 3 men and three boys
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Born Sedgley
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Elizabeth Mills
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1814
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Wife
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Born Sedgley
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Mary Ann Mills
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1834
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Daughter - Tailoress
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Born Sedgley
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Julia Mills
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1836
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Daughter
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Born Sedgley
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Elizabeth Mills
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1841
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Daughter
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Born Sedgley
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Miram Mills
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1844
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Daughter
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Born Sedgley
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Thirza Mills
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1845
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Daughter
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Born Sedgley
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Phoebe Ann Mills
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1849
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Daughter
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Born Sedgley
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Mils
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Hannah
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Daughter
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1854
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Sedgley
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Mils
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Sarah
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Daughter
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Unmarried
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1857
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Sedgley
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Tuesday, 23 October 2012
Who was James Morris the plater's father
This from Geoffrey Morris
I'm beginning to think that our
ancestor was not George Morris but Thomas. The only likely entry I've found (so
far) in the 1841 Birmingham census is for a family in Pritchit (now Pritchett)
Street, close to New John Street, where James Morris, father of James and
Alfred (Alfred my Grandad), was born in September 1839. Ancestry lists them as
Tomes and Rosina Morris, both aged 25, but someone has corrected this
transcription to James, which clearly right (see the attached). Also there was
their presumed son Jos or Jas, aged one, which (if he wasn't Joseph but James)
could well be my great-grandfather. Rosina is a reasonable version of
Rosanna(h), whose name gets spelt in several ways. Also here is the presumed
father/grandfather, Thomas, aged 65, so born in about 1796. He was a brewer,
and his son (presumably his son) a labourer. Where Thomas's wife, if any, was
(dead? visiting?) I have no idea. I've tried to find her through the IGI, but
there are at least half a dozen candidates. Pending further and better
particulars, as the lawyers say, I'm assuming Thomas is our ancestor. Which
means removing a large number of relatives from my tree!
So what makes me think that it is George rather than Thomas.
·
George was a gunmaker, as was Rosehannah’s
father, so they may have known each other.
·
There is no record of Thomas having a son called
James in the IGI
·
In 1839 on James the chainmaker’s birth
certificate the family were living in New John Street. Unfortunately we don’t
know where they were living in 1849 when James the Plater died , as he died in
hospital in Bath Row.
·
Thomas is given as a brewer in the 1841 census
and James as a labourer but we know that james was a skilled man, a silver
plater.
·
Even if James and Rosehannah were at the same
address as Thomas in 1841, he could be some other relation, with whom they were
staying temporarily .
The jury is still out and it will need some digging in the
parish records of St George’s and St Philip’s, where James the son of George was
christened according to IGI.
Friday, 21 September 2012
Whitehouse Family Story
Origins
Whitehouse is one of those names that is very familiar and
common, but a hundred years ago was only common in the Black Country. There are
some instances in Wales and the North West, but it doesn’t show at all in the
south and east of England. Pretty
obviously it originally meant someone who lived in a white house. The Guild of
One Name Studies has one person interested in the name,. In fact they have more
in common with our Morrises, being platers and gun barrel makers. but his
family come from Birmingham and I can’t see a relevance to ours. http://www.users.waitrose.com/~whitehousefhc/
The Whitehouses join our story when Sarah Whitehouse married
Samuel Hamlet in 1845.
Sarah Whitehouse1823-
1876
According to IGI Sarah was christened on 2nd
March 1823 at St Martins in Tipton. Her parents were William Whitehouse and
Deborah (nee Perkins).
The 1841 census shows her living with her parents and
siblings in New Road Tipton, and on 10th August 1845 she married
Samuel Hamlet (or Hamblet as they were spelling it that week) at the parish
Church in Dudley. At that stage she was living in New Hall street, as was
Samuel , although her parents were still at New Road.
At the time of the 1851 census Samuel and Sarah are living
at Tividale in Rowley Regis with 2 sons Samuel William (1847) and Joseph, our
great grandfather (1850). They appear to have moved to Rowley Regis between
1847 when Samuel Jnr was born in Dudley, and 1850 when Joseph was born in
Rowley Regis.
By 1861 they have moved again to Park Lane Tipton, and here
there is a mystery. They have daughter
Mercey, and there son Samuel is only 10. I can’t find a record of the Samuel
Jnr dying and another son being called
Samuel. It should also be noted that Joseph, who we know was born in 1850 is
listed as being born in 1857 in the transcript of this census, giving his age
as 4, while the original looks more like 14 to me. Still not right, but closer.
As we know Samuel Snr died in a pit accident in 1862 when
Sarah was 39. In the 1871 census she is shown as a widow living with Joseph,
now 22 and Mercy who is 14 at Sedgley Road East in Tipton.
The newspaper reports of Samuel’s death say that he had 6
children. I have found five so far.Joseph 1849
Samuel 1851
John 1852-1859
Isaac 1855-1857
Mercy 1857
John aged 8 was drowned in the pit shaft at
the same colliery as his father in 1859, three years before the death of his
father. The death certificate quotes from the coroner that "how he got in
the said water no evidence to shew". Isaac died aged 2 of inflammatory
dropsy. Samuel Jnr has disappeared. I can’t find him in the censuses or
a record of his death.
Joseph married Sarah Emily Mills in 1873 and Mercy (with
another spelling variation – Humphlett) married Henry Brakewell in1876. Sarah
died in 1876, aged 53 of liver disease. .She was still living at Sedgley Road and her death was registered by her
sister Anne who is married to Joseph
Brierwood.
William Whitehouse
1791-1874 and Deborah Perkins 1795-1877
I can’t find a definitive birth record for William. According
to IGI there were two William Whitehouses christened at St Mary’s Handsworth in
the relevant time period Wiiliam 1 was
christened on 26th June 1791 and his parents were Daniel and
Elizabeth. William 2 was christened on 21st September 1792 and his
parents were Isaac and Eleanor. Often you can make a sensible guess by the use
of a name in the next generation, but William and Deborah had sons called
Daniel and Isaac and a daughter called Sarah. Until I can get to the parish
records and check William and Deborah’s marriage records I won’t know which is
the right record, and the trail ends here for now.
According to the various censuses both William and Deborah
were born in West Bromwich and William was boatman.
William and Deborah married at St Mary’s Handsworth on 9th
September 1816 according to IGI.
They spent their married life at New Road Tipton. Looking at
the map, New Road is very close to the Walsall Canal and quite near to the
junctions of the Walsall Canal with the Tame Valley Canal and the Birmingham
Canal, and Dudley Port. Tipton – Venice of the Midlands.
William and Deborah had 6 children
William 1821
Sarah 1826
Daniel 1826
Anne 1830
Isaac 1833
Thomas 1839
Sarah 1826
Daniel 1826
Anne 1830
Isaac 1833
Thomas 1839
In the 1851 census William and his sons Daniel and Isaac are
boatmen. Their youngest son Thomas is shown as being born in Church Aston
Shropshire, perhaps on a boat trip. They have a lodger , Joseph Brierwood (who
later married their daughter Anne) and their grandson unnamed Hamlet aged for
is also there. This is most likely Samuel Jnr, although he also shows on his
parents census form.
By 1861 William, now 69, has stopped being a boatman and is
a labourer. His sons, Daniel 35,, Isaac, 28 and Thomas 21 are all unmarried,
living at home and working as boatmen.
In 1871 only Isaac is still at home, although there is also
another grandson, Thomas, and by 1881
William and Deborah are both dead and Isaac and Thomas are lodging with a
family called Partridge in Mill Street, just across the A461 from New Road.
William died in 1874 and Deborah in 1877
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